Since the rules have changed again effective this fall I have came up with another case based on the 444 marlin necked to .375 at 1.8 inches long. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:36 am, Post But those new X models are very hard to get now. The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. I haven't dismissed the idea but I'll research the best rate-of-twist for it. This is my wifes go-to rifle for defense. A lever gun would be a really fun toy for me. May be possible to make a single shot but it would be costly. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. I agree with Dave. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. Brand: Winchester Firearms. If I absolutely had to ditch all my guns and go with a single handgun + single rifle, this would be my choice. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/lever-action-ballistics-30-30-vs-357-magnum/, The original (factory) Marlin review: [6] The "Magnum era" began with the .375 H&H rifle cartridge, spreading to handguns with the .357 Magnum. Ive wanted one for years. Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. This is the showpiece among Winchesters 1873 model range, and it had better be with a price tag at around $1,800. I bought a brandified new Ruger .357 revolver just as this lockdown crap started. The powerful Ruger 77/357 is chambered in .357 Mag. 357 maximum rifle For Sale 1000+ Listings Found Page 1 of 317 1 2 3 . The trigger is even really nice for a lever gun and I own a bunch of them. The 40-70 Sharps straight can be formed from 405 Winchester cases. . Really puts a pop in the round. Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. Thank God for so many various powders available. (left) vs. .357 Magnum (Right). Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. 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It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. but I can welcome You to the forum. Fortunately I do have lever guns in .22, .44 and 30-30 so Im not that upset. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. IMPORTANT NOTE: THROAT LENGTHS IN CUSTOM BARRELS VARY. Extremely accurate, small groupsit reminds me why I got into shooting in the first place. A bit heavy, if I had to buy it again, Id pick a shorter, lighter barrel version but I am not unhappy with the gun. Nostalgia isnt relevance. Please try a new zip code and search again. Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. Regardless of the manufacturer, most reloading books recommend you do not load bullets lighter than 158 grains. You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. I use regular .38 Special/.357 Magnum dies to load my .357 Maximum ammo. Great for when wearing gloves. . As the sport grew, the single shots came into their own as did fancy, short bolt guns, but a quarter of the program was always with a stock revolver. Show Only with Pictures Mine was made in about 2005, for what its worth. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). T/Cs Contender pistol was also a natural for this cartridge, and it was a popular chambering. I think it helps ballistic uniformity in this long, skinny case and slow propellants. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. Custom barrels made by the best of the custom TC barrel manufacturers! Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths. Its been gaining more momentum than originally expected. The world's most powerful firearm database. It brings old school to the new school and shoots like a dream. But I just couldnt ever wrap my brain around spending enough on a lever action to buy two or three semi-auto rifles. My all-time favorite .357 rifle is still the IMI Timber Wolf pump. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. on January 02, 2020: Recently had mcCullough arms Valley Grand, Al. Its replete with a brass receiver, 20-inch octagonal barrel and buckhorn rear sight, so it has the classic look and feel, but also features a brass bead front sight and 10-round magazine tube. Long loaded 357 Mag should still be accurate in the 360 and are great for fun shooting. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Nice single shot rifle. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. I know its not the answer you want, but it gets you to the same place. John said that he quietly kept on shooting his Rugers in the controversial caliber. Item Number: 534259137. If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. by Hobie Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 am, Post Yes, tactical Virginia, you can put a red dot on a lever gun. The resulting airspace does no good. .357 Rem. The .357 Maximum went away. Its cheaper than a lot of other calibers to shoot with minimal felt recoil. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. The only guy I knew who shot 357 Max had a Ruger SBH and a Marlin lever gun re-chambered for the Max cartridge. It was too intense and very finicky. Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. Gun Genius. Many shooters used their long-barreled .357 Magnum revolvers but usually longed for a bit more velocity to go with those heavy bullets. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. If you start a 140 grain XTP from a 16" .357 carbine at 2000 fps, your retained velocity at 200 will be around 1250- typical handgun muzzle velocity for today's watered-down .357 factory loads. In Stock. This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. Ha. This is well within the expansion range of the slightly larger XTP. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. And if you do it right, .38 Special or .357 Mag is an incredibly cheap round to reload, with brass that lasts forever and makes a fine alternative to .22LR when plinking ammo is hard to find. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. . The 357 max is all that plus a bit of more power available. Use only MAGNUM Rifle primers in .357 Maximum loads. Winchester Model 1873. Buy .357 Maximum SuperMag 180g Hornady XTP HP 1800 FPS 20 rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 972984640. . Best place to find squirrels in in a deer stand with a 30-06. Maximum, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. Not even a Rossi(saw a trick shot dude on a video whos main gun was a Rossi). While visiting Rugers New Hampshire facility in 1985, I learned that when the company built the California Highway Patrol Commemorative model of the No. Considering that there are no problems with this cartridge in single-shot pistols and rifles, it is unfortunate that the revolver problems sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine cartridge. But that being said, your S&W 8 shot Revolver is a nice pistol. In the many years since, however, Ive shot pretty much every common handgun caliber and own a dozen or so of them and, still, something about that .357 just works the best. Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. The advantage I see to 357 max is you use 357 mag carbide reloading dies so it is easier to reload and no trimming. His just naturally pointed well, I didnt have to work at all. Which was ".357 maximum Auto Rimless." The moniker ".357 Max AR" stuck with the round for 3 reasons, 1) it was a 5.56 case expanded to straightwall, maximizing its capacity, 2) it uses load data very similar to the 357 Maximum rimmed revolver cartridge, and 3) the "Max-AR," Auto Rimless, was really only meant for use in AR-15's . Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. It was stopped when Ruger or someone discovered flame cutting of the top strap above the barrel/cylinder gap. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. Carbine length I enjoyed your article. If you want to. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22 . Ps should've gone with 26" would be better. XTP bullet in a 357 mag. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. I like the combo. Free shipping for many products! A hollow-point 357 magnum bullet combines maximum weight retention and terminal expansion to provide threat-stopping power . Henry is finally putting out some side loading gate models, while still retaining the muzzle end magazine tube, so as to make them easier and safer to unload. Marlin changed the sliding top strap to a sliding sidewall, therefore making the rifle side-ejecting. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a Obviously, a longer cartridge had increased powder capacity and greater velocity potential. I had a 30.30 then I decided to upgrade to a Having fired several different types and CARRIED them in the Military, I much prefer the simple and traditional bolt-actions, levers and semi-autos that American hunters have carried for generations. for a velocity of around 1836 fps. Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. No box or papers. For full power loads like 30 gr. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:32 pm, Post A 180-grain version was added, but it was also a hollowpoint. bullets in barrels around 20. .44-40. Seems like whenever Ive had the funds, none have been available, and when Im broke, there everywhere. H110. .357 Maximums and the 9x72R, an old German rifle cartridge. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. I use handguns for everyday carry. The .357 Remington Maximum is the .357 Magnum revolver round lengthened .315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. by Rusty Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 pm, Post Reloading has nothing to do with it.. And, I AM a Vietnam in-country veteran, Gomer. ", Go toMatch Grade Machine or call them at 435 628 0071. Good thought though. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. Load data for 9 loads in caliber .357 Maximum with .355 . 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Latest posts Offshore They're here!!! Through the years, the company continued to expand and . Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. I never got to shoot either. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. get the Lee hand press. Single shots from Thompson/Center, Wichita and Merrill appeared on the expanding .357 Maximum market. For some reason it's hard to exceed what 2400 can do in the .357 mag, but H110/W296 and lil gun should also be viable options. But muh tactical! you say? by Nath Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:30 pm, Post Trust me. Based on the serial number it looked like it was made this year. Goes to show I learn something new every day. Since there is very little commercial availability for the .357 Rem. 20170926..35Cal.190gr.Fury.Jug.Test - Copy1.jpg, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2t-barrel-length-muzzle-velocity-and-accuracy/, https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullets/rifle-bullets/hot-cor-rifle-bullet/2435, https://matchgrademachine.com/encore-contender-357-magnum-maximum-load-development-results/, http://hawkbullets.com/bullet-selection.html, https://cuttingedgebullets.com/shop/ets?caliber=43, http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/WPHandloading-Guide-7.0-Web-REV.pdf. Rechambering to bottle neck cartridges with additional for handling and converting extractor for rimless cases, from $205. Im going to be very careful dipping into a little bit of political prognostication, but I think most of us would acknowledge that gun-banners have a list of the guns they hate most (cough AR cough) and that John Waynes Cowboy Rifle is way down at the bottom of that list. .38-40. twist: 1:18.75"; trim length: 1.285"; primer: Winchester SPM; bullet diam. I have the Winchester 1892 pictured above. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. Take a lever action over an AR every day. You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. I have not seen the .357 atomic but know of the .375 atomic-it is a i.4 in. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. Please enjoy those guns with your family on my behalf, as I will not be purchasing **anything** in CA in my continuing quest to remain off the CADOJs books. of rifles attached to horn or pommel and carried in a shuck of some sort. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. 9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. With 125 gr. The last time I sent a gun off for some work was a chiappa revolver 2 years ago. Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. rounds and it goes on just about every trip to the range. The revolvers that were built in this caliber are rare, and consistently go for a premium over other Ruger Blackhawks. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Levers are light, easy to carry with quick target acquisition and reliability. Todays edition also features a falling block safety, so it can be carried loaded. In fact, a lever action carbine and a revolver in matching caliber is every bit as useful today as it was for the settlers on the Western Frontier. Check out ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html and ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html. Not a bad option if you are living in a slave state. This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. About 5 deer have fallen to that rifle/bullet combo, all of the bang-flop's at about 80 yards. I think its partly because leverguns are unusual in a sea of sameness, and also because theyve still got a bit of that badass Old West cachet. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. Used Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA 2-3/4 or 3" shell,Top break action, Reciever is a case hardened finish. The chronograph results show it is identical to the 35 Remington. Thanks Muddy, 2506, hunter67, shooter7. It was simply the .357 case lengthened to 1.60 and used the heavier bullets of 158 grains to as much as 200 grains. This load generates very close to the SAAMI max of 35k psi. Give a Gift . @ Ed Palumbo. For them a pistol caliber Lever carbine makes a lot of sense. properly aligns and supports the shank of the bullet as it enters the rifling. The .357 Maximum is a "stretched" .357 Magnum case; it's about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. Even when I was younger I preferred the .357 over the .44. Item Number: 534196137. Why does a levergun in .357 Magnum make more sense than one in .30-30 in those states? 38 special. The problem with rebarreling a Ruger No 1 or 3 is not the round, it it locating a gunsmith capable of dealing with a Ruger single shot action. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. The least amount of trouble would be to buy a 35 Remmington and be done with it. Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. It shouts very well that way. Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. . rounds border on simply dumb when the .357 Maximum is so much more accurate and easier to shoot accurately with its moderate recoil. Order your barrel directly from Match Grade Machine, made however you want with their standard chamber or for $125 additional post paid to you, custom chambered by me, Mike Bellm, to my specs for best accuracy with the full range of bullet weights and types. Check the charts out at the bottom of the page. Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. If you didn't know much about this caliber before, hopefully this article has given you some insight into why it is such a great cartridge. Perfect. Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al.
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