My neighbor has a deer lease with a very comfortable raised blind. However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and So If you load the .44 Remington with something like 25 grains blackpoweder you only get about 100 ft-lbs energy. 1885 Low Wall Manual. surrounded by 9 .44 chambers. First, only one person had the cutoff date right; it is 1998 / 99. Western Pennsylvania, Keystone of Freedom, CAS, Fine Wood Working, Toggle Link Rifle Tuner , SA Tuner, Casting, Reloading, Firing Black Powder guns Had a cowboy smith smooth the internals so they dont chew each other up.ook mighty sweet in a pair of El Paso Saddlery crossdraw Slim Jims. what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns ? Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. I suggest going to the local gun shop and ask if there are any cowboy action shooters around. stan wayback ROFL, So nice to read about black powder stuff here. Rolling Silliness aside, I had little to no interest in black powder until I was at the range next to an older fellow firing rounds through an old muzzle loader rifle. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. Ihave been thinking about getting one of these for a while, I have a question. THINNING VISIBLE ON BARREL NEAR MUZZLE. 1873 Rifle Manual. I have a Pietta with after-market Tresso nipples that are just slightly smaller and regular caps fall off, but Dynamil Nobel 1075s fit perfectly. I considered making a set of lamps out of them but decided to give them away at 1/3 of what I paid for them. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. hikin PCT ,shooting steel bandits .TRAINS, shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing. I have two ASM revolvers, both were imports thru EMF. I grew up watching all of the old western movies on TBS. The front sight was okay, except that it was frequently made of brass, wich when polished by the inside of a holster, tended to reflect glare into the shooters eyes, but the rear sight was a crude notch, filed roughly into the tip of the hammer! For an 1858, the standard Remington caps will work brilliantly. It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and great fun to shoot. I have an ASM Colt clone. Excellent shape with no not for sale by BuffaloHunter4 on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 972952045 To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Later David. Not part of Uberti in any wayexcept by marriage. To sum up, if you want a gun that you can use for Years, Pass it onto your Son, or maybe even your Grandson, buy a steel framed Remington Style Revolver from Either Pietta, or A.Uberti & Son, and with due care and respect, the gun will last several lifetimes! Personally, I think hes nutso! Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. Something went wrong. Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? Of course it is one of the old ones which may be the reason. Of course, walking around with fully-loaded and capped extra cylinders on your belt or in your pocket can be a bit dicey. It is meat harvesting, pure and simple. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. CYLINDER, BARREL AND LOADING ASSEMBLY IS BARE METAL. Regulators. Actually. THE FRAME , HAMMER AND RAMROD ASSEMBLY RETAIN APPROX 94% OF .45 Colt; 98% blue, near mint bore, very good grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUCTION OF A REMINGTON MODEL 1875 ARMY REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT OVERALL CONDITION. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. Brass (frame) is kinda pretty but Steel much stronger and more durable. Cimarron Thunderer and WOOD 36 Caliber; 75% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Uberti 1851 Navy 6 shot .36 caliber black powder revolover. All year long he trains the deer to come to his corn feeder. . THE BLUING ON THE OCTAGONAL BARREL SHOWS FRECKLING ALONG WITH LIGHT MUZZLE WEAR. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. It is the reciever/frame of any gun that is the controlled part, basically the receiver or frame IS the gun, legally. BLUED BARREL SHOWS SMALL AREA OF PATINA ON LEFT ADJACENT TO RECEIVER. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). I had to put down an estimated 350- 400 pound bear that can in my camp and got into it with my dog. Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. The only thing I don't like about it is that the very tip of the trigger is a little "sharp" compared to a real Colt, and if you try to spin it, it is a little uncomfortable on your finger. Unless the revolvers were actualy made before Jan 1. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. This gun was thoroughly rebuilt by Oglesby & Oglesby and is a fine revolver having had the cylinder and hammer re-hardened, and wire springs installed, including the Ruger style coil handspring and plunger. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. Pew Poll: Gun Control Losing Steam, Money and Popularity, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, The 3 Most Important Handgun Shooting Stances to Learn, http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/blackpowder-revolvers/1851-1861-navy-collection/1851-navy-steel-36-5-octagonal-barrel-steel-case-hardened-frame-brass-backstrap-trigger-guard-model-002.html, Johnnie Roper (Gunslinger9378 on the 1858Remington.com Forum. FRONT SIGHT IS MISSING. Thanks Dan. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. Customer Service. Ive been thinking of getting one since I recently watched Pale Rider. ", Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont [have] safety notches.. THE LOCK IS IN THE WHITE. hello again my good friends , I have a couple sets of BP cap/ball one is a mixed set of open top 1-36 navy and a 44 navy/army and the other is a set of 1858 new army is 44 any how was thinkin of pull-in them out of the safe and maybe doing a tune up ,try to soffen those big springs but don't see any thing on them any more , not a mention , were these "junk " guns .? And if you happen to have another pre-loaded cylinder with you, PRESTO! Are the parts hand made/fitted, or is the manufacture generic these days? You have entered an incorrect email address! Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. How about a five year old 1851 Navy, to a current 1861 Navy? I like that yall are diversifying the content a little bit. The heavier loads are a bitch on my wrists so Ido plinking at about 20 grains. My Command Sergeant Major made me promise to shoot it and not just keep it in my safe. PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). The owner was very knowledgeable about his business. BORE IS FAIR. He sent it back twice because of some minor issues, but its a nice gun for ~$200. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Colonel in Texas Army. Some folks claim doing so helps prevent chain fires, or all the cylinders going off at once. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. I was told by the Chiappa folks, they changed the Armi Sport name to Chiappa because of this confusion. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . The Cleanest Clean Its Ever Been! I wipe off the parts of the frame with a water dampened rag, to get fouling off the frame, hammer, and the slot in the recoil shield whre the hammer goes through to strike the cap, then use a lightly oiled rag to go over the same places! The reason is that .44 is the muzzle diameter. Used Blued 1858 Cylinder Pins (will fit Pietta and ASM) 4 ea. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. That is true. I did know enough about black powder to use soap and water and clean until the bubbles showed white with no discoloration, but I screwed up and did not fully disassemble the cylinder and firing mechanism and after three months in storage (before and after a move) it was a rusty mess. RO11, Cowboy Mounted Shooting, Hunting and Cowboy Action Shooting, Parts are still available on a limited basis from. Lightning Manual. Same as for buying an 1873 Colt Peacemakerjust because it was designed prior to 1899 doesnt mean that you can have it shipped to your door. He took the gun back. Any help would be appreciated. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. It has never given me a lick of trouble, and whenever I am at a shoot where I want to do as best I can, it will be in my right holster, with a 3rd Gen Colt in my left. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. MARINA MILITARE Mens Sz XXL Brigata Marina San Marco Maroon Red Polo Italy, WWII 1942 US Army Pilot Training Rating Book San Marcos Texas, San Marco Italy Saddle ERA Start Power white color, San Marco Italy Saddle ERA Dynamic Power white & black strap color, (PGUN7) ADVERT 11X8" THE SAN MARCO PEACEMAKER REVOLVER MODEL 1873 ARMY, NOS San Marco Saddle in Blue Metallic Length 22 cm / 8.6 inches, San Marcos Texas Academy Jacket Patch US Army United States Military Vintage, San Marcos Texas Academy Jacket Patch US Army Military JROTC Boarding School, Army DUI DI dui CB clutchback SAN MARCOS BAPTIST ACADEMY JROTC ROTC Japan 1950's, US Army Vintage Patriotic Postcard - San Marcos - Florida, St Augustine FL Florida Castillo de San Marcos Military Army Vtg Postcard R9, Army DUI DI dui Pin Badge SAN MARCOS BAPTIST ACADEMY JROTC ROTC Japan 1950's, US Army Vintage Patriotic Postcard - Castillo de San Marcos - Florida, ITALIAN ARMY MOUNTAIN BOOTS SKI WALKING HIKING SAN MARCO NEW MILITARY SURPLUS, CVA ARMI SAN MARCO Over & Under Left & Right Side Lock (Sear Springs) (New/Old), 1993 Asm armi san marco 1851 44revolver top strap back strap, Asm armi san marco 1858 44 cal barrel #165, Asm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165, ARMI SAN MARCO 1P SAA GRIPS ~ MAGNA-TUSK AGED IVORY, ONE-PIECE ~ ASM, Asm 1851 Navy Trigger Guard And Grip Backstrap, E.M.F. Type: Revolver. Max load? Also on the note of black powder, someone with a lesser felony conviction can own a black powder gun as long as the magazine cannot be altered to fire High power center fire ammunition (45-70 and .45 colt cowboy rounds do not apply). I even got a lee mold to cast mini BP bullet for 36 cal , but cause the bullet was a tad long to fit in cly loading press on the navy,I never tried it thanks Stan. New in Box-never fired. -drop safety-Hammer - Z52747, Lussignoli Renzo W. Moore/ London Reproduction - C53214, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army Even though todays 1858s are made with modern steels and CNC machines, you still want to shoot only light cowboy loads through them. It definitely seems that the makers will do as much quality control as is expected by the importer. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & Same thing with the barrels. Please click Accept Cookies to continue to use the site. I noticed in the latest Taylors catalog that they are also using the name Armi in, front of the Chiappa name in that catalog. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. I've had to do very little fitting on Uberti or Pietta replacement parts - Hammer/trigger/hand/bolt/cylinder/loading lever. After that, the law is quite simple, though apparently foolish. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. What size/type primers are best? Be like suing Ruger if they called one of their 1911 models "Old Slabsides", or Uberti over their new 1873 "Thumbuster". Definitely a 50-yard whitetail gun. They are the Edsel of. If youre not lucky, then youve got a tear in your femoral artery and only a few minutes to stop the bleeding before youre introduced to Eliphalet Remington at that great gun factory in the sky. 36 BP; excellent bore, excellent stock, 9.5'' barrel, Manufactured in Italy. Always like the Remington over the Colt design ever since seeing Lorne Greenes on Bonanza as a kid. If you see one for sale someplace, check it out carefully before you buy. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? After that, the law is quite simple, though apparently foolish. I also don't hestate to loan it to others. 1885 High Wall Manual. I have one of these which I bought after a whole lot of looking and reading. Their SAA's are a good example. -drop safety-Hammer - Z52778, A. Uberti & C. Cattleman 1873 By But to me, it just seems that a black powder gun pushing a round ball does not have the ballistics to routinely be lethal on a whitetail deer. 5.5" barrel in .45 Colt. 1883 Burgess Manual. Model: 1858. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. 1876 Rifle Manual. Drones are easy to hack or shoot down. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. A nice write-up and while it may be legal to take deer with the load described I would note that said load has less power than the 44-40 out of a m-92 carbine, a close range proposition to be sure. Buffalo. Black powder works best when it is compressed. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. About 400 ft-lbs Energy. True for the 1873 and any other revolver deaigned to fire cartridges. THE NICKLE PLATED FINISH IS GENERALLY EXCELLENT WITH A SPOT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRIP STRAP SHOWING DISCOLORATION. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top With .40 grains of Black Powder I get about 400 ft-lbs of Energy. It is a very pretty gun with a 24 octogon barrel and a case hardened receiver. The Colt type sighting was crude, to say the very least! Lock functions well, trigger 44 Caliber; 96% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. Dont touch it unless the gun is pointing in a safe direction cause there is is no transfer bar. Cimarron Thunderer and In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why it broke due to stress risers from the poorly finished part).
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