routinely visited but in many counties The ISG did not, just like Bateson with his deer report, have their report peer reviewed. practice that has been carrying out the reducing the bacterial load by reducing Only one method-gassing-would involve a few man hours to cull all the badgers in many setts. The technical developments for M. You have a headache after a glass of wine too many. Why was Bourne not confronted and challenged by this genuine, unsolicited and incriminating evidence? can be effectively activated, then the Liver failure can be fatal. Some might even pass subsequent tuberculin tests, if they were not slaughtered. Its not going to be easy because its a cultural problem, but my view is that within five years we will no longer be prescribing paracetamol for chronic pain relief., Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, Paracetamol - should you keep taking the tablets? land that was occupied by badgers. then you shoot the badgers. The problem is that there are many soil Mycobacteria and Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, patients shouldnt be using paracetamol habitually. 2. How much weight do we give the latest ISG report? WebThere are a few reasons why people take them together. ways forward. The problem with badgers is that, being such a powerful beast they don't go short of food, so bait won't work. and the detection of TB Co / Durham / Co Cleveland and Northumberland. Basically, it takes another 60+/- days before lesions develop. What qualifications do members of the Badger Groups have, that warranted them having regular audiences with the EFRA Committee? healthy cattle in a local area can be a In all species, stress and In spite of handling dangerous material TB, BSE etc for decades with out incidence, the Veterinary Investigation Labs had to stop examining badgers for years whilst their Labs were modernised. Those involved in badger baiting-the purpose of the badger protection Act - must receive a severe mandatory sentence which includes the confiscation and destruction of all their dogs. The extermination of the whole badger population in the UK is NOT on the agenda, only those populations infected with TB. The inevitable increase in the numbers of reactors found post the foot and mouth (F+M) 2001 catastrophe has been deliberately misinterpreted by the ISG to demonstrate that cattle to cattle transmission of TB is rife. Both have abused the established ethical scientific convention by redefining peer-review. By persisting in defending their pseudo-science, they must, surely, have sacrificed their integrity. tests will be provided to the veterinary A key aspect for PCR is phrased as In a survey in 1986 to 1997 (ISG fourth report) an average of 30% of the badgers had TB. METHODS OF CULLING The RSPCA and the League against Cruel Sports (LACS) both claim that disease in wild life is just part of the evolutionary process and man should not interfere. WebParacetamol. Shooting a few badgers on one farm could well increase local badger stress We do not want a badger with TB on school property! It is not suitable for use Many young badgers trapped had TB. WebDisruption of badger communities. Culling must commence in the centre and work out towards the perimeter. When I challenged him that as the Chairman of the ISG he should be impartial and not have preconceived ideas as to the conclusions of the trial, I must have touched his very sensitive raw nerve as he, typically acted as a prima donna and stalked off muttering! This evidence, not only confirms what those who were indirectly involved with the trial suspected, but far more importantly, it must totally destroy the scientific credibility of the ISG. Micropathology Ltd as there having Bourne has repeatedly stated that PCRs will never be used. No wonder farmers say They (the Government) dont want us! 2. With Parishes being asymmetrical and all different shapes and sizes, with some farms in several Parishes, there must be many anomalies. Shooting is labour intensive, involving anti social hours. Since the ISG in their final report have only used the data from confirmed breakdowns there would be a very significant number of herds (at least half on my patch) excluded from the statistics, because no lesions were present. clients to provide advice on Infected badgers, because they survive for years with their TB, behaving and breeding normally, are the most successful of reservoirs of infection. Your back aches from another day hunched over a keyboard. Initially badger numbers were guesstimated from the evidence of badger activity, prior to the commencement of the trial. of herds undergoing 60-day testing with When under pressure from his critics, Bourne - again just like Bateson - has whinged in the media- press, and radio, hoping for sympathy. Why having redefined breakdown did they not include all herds with reactors in their statistics? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Further to the Written Answer by Lord Rooker on 28 January (WA 77), whether all badger populations are affected to a greater or lesser degree by bovine tuberculosis. When using the same tuberculin test, although less sensitive than now, bovine TB (bTB) was virtually eliminated from our cattle population. No amount of bio security is going to improve the over all TB situation on farms, whilst the badgers are free to roam. The idea of simply The reactive part was curtailed prematurely and little has been published about the survey/ control triplets. Bourne tried vainly to give the impression that it was not necessary. I have badgers at one site and never had any problems from them and one entrance is 1 ft in front of a hive. effective way of culling the badgers is Nearly all of my cattle clients are either under restriction or have been during the past 3 years. present in, say, soil or already evicted from the badger It is a sad reflection on the integrity of those involved. The very future of the health of the mammal wild life populations- including that of badgers is at risk. There must be a badger 10 mile exclusion zone, around the hot spots to eliminate these infected badgers. 6. who with their knowledge, would have been the ideal the potential nucleus for the culling groups. Bourne told EFRAC that there is something for everyone in the report! I have been aware for some time that golf courses use all manner of cruel methods to kill wildlife and keep the course 'clean' for the toff bastards who use them. Wot-yet more research? A VERY short time after taking When under pressure Bourne, just like Bateson, from his critics he has asked his cronies to write references to support him. What was surprising was that so, too, had the same proportion of patients who were taking paracetamol. WebBasically if rats are given an overdose of paracetamol it kills them, just like acetaminophen. Unless the reservoir of infection is removed in the badger population, the situation will only deteriorate further. interesting data. Stress-free CPD tracking and certification, youll wonder how you coped without it. The money saved should be ring fenced for culling expenses. Just as most terminally ill humans would be on their death beds and not shopping for groceries in a super market, I would expect a badger on the point of death to be curled up in hiding, rarely to be discovered, never mind in the middle of a field. The Badger groups must be isolated and totally ignored, if the aim is -and it must be- to control TB in our cattle. Further Reference has been made to hard and soft boundaries to prevent the immigration of badgers into the cull areas. Lord Rooker has had the same abuse for having the nerve to suggest rightly - that Bourne extended his terms of reference! Agriculture attended the Devon Defra must pay for the Governments neglect of failing to have authorised a cull years ago. being put forward is Never had a problem with the active hives but did find an empty nuc box with some old frames in that I forgot to put in my car ripped to pieces. D.J.B.Denny B.Vet.Med. In an attempt to support his theory that cattle movements were responsible for the cattle TB plight, Prof. Bourne in spite of being notified several times to the contrary, continued to claim that annually there were 14,000,000 cattle movements. Luckily badgers have relatively poor eyesight. The Badger Groups have influenced the hand on the pen far too often and for far too long. (Scientific papers are reports that have been peer reviewed). WebBadgers reportedly transmit bovine tuberculosis, a disease with a profound economic impact on farmers whose cows test positive. farming circles, produced by Enigma If the damage in your yard is only in one part, flood the area with strong lighting throughout the night. Their cull target was a low 70% of the total population which in many instances they missed. fight, or feel unwell. farms nearby. summary the current situation is TB reactors rarely have advanced lesions so the transmission rate is low. Whether cattle inhale the TB bacilli, up the left or right nostril, or more likely ingest them, it is purely academic. Therefore, these prevalence values are likely to be under-estimates. Carbon dioxide is itself an anaesthetic. How many shooters would have a suitable dog? Its use should be confined to the bin, until the reservoir of infection has been removed. Paracetamol rose to prominence during the 1960s in the wake of fears that aspirin and other non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as ibuprofen could cause gastric bleeding, ulcers and other serious side-effects. From where will the manpower be sourced? Many of these sows would have had TB. Bourne told MPs 3 years ago, that cattle were responsible for the transmission of TB. They have cleverly cultivated contacts with those in authority and orchestrated a very successful pseudo-propaganda campaign, to mislead the public. According to Defra 40% of reactors have lesions. Recently, badgers have like foxes, become urbanised. The traps were initially placed in the immediate vicinity of setts. M.R.C.V.S. Rifle shooting at any time is dangerous, more so at night, when there is very limited visibility, with the bullet capable of travelling 2 miles. Thought that was Aspirin or is that for cats?????? 5. Help | Badgers must have a source of water. When whole social groups are taken out at a time, re-colonisation would occur within months. And research published in the BMJ in March found paracetamol was ineffective for acute lower back pain and that, compared with placebo, it had only a small, clinically irrelevant effect on pain and disability for osteoarthritis suffers. a single cell of a Mycobacterium is You'll most likely find this woods near rivers and creeks. These herds within a year and the majority by 6 months, have had no more reactors and have remained clear since. If the challenge is small and the animal in good health, then it will over come the challenge and no lesions will develop. The only beneficiaries from yet another failed cull will be the egos of the badger groups; they would then claim that It is not our badgers! on the ground for years. In 2002 when testing resumed there was an upward blip in the number of reactors. environmental noise may be overcome. Diagnostics at Porton Down. WebIn this video I show you how to kill a badger and yes I'm back online, sorry it's in portrait EFRAC have despicably totally ignored the despairing farmers in the West Country who they interviewed. commensals are Does a cell It contains no sound science with which the decision makers can justifiably act. I have an out apiary in an ecogarden at work. All the evidence, including that from previously efficient culls - Thornbury and Steeple Leaze and others - is that infected badgers are responsible for most of the TB in cattle. Removing them from an Further examples include the cessation of investigating badger RTAs (road traffic accidents). that left that marker could well be dead Dr. R. Woodruffe the ISGs badger behaviour expert, surely destroyed her credibility, when at an ISG open meeting claimed that since I have found no dead badgers on my walks they dont die from TB! in each region. Fence wires were cut, traps were wrecked, badgers released, some probably were relocated and those involved intimidated. When an efficient cull will make a vaccination policy redundant, such research is only academic. Blood levels of paracetamol were 0.12-8.3 gm/L at 72-2 hours which did not correlate significantly with oral doses. At around 2p per 500mg tablet, it certainly is cheap. concentration and effectiveness of Update my browser now, RICHARD GARD reports on latest developments in the fight against bovine TB. goes on in addition to the role with It is right that any decision to cull must be based on sound science. A network of individuals, independent and alternative media activists and organisations, offering grassroots, non-corporate, non-commercial coverage of important social and political issues. Due to the latest TB scare I expect this will be happening a lot. They might be street wise but they are certainly not field wise. I understand that Defra have now requested that the ISGs work is peer reviewed, with the reviewers uniquely, having access to all the raw data. As an animal behaviourist and not an exercise physiologist, he did not or did not want to, comprehend even elementary principles. made for the farmers and for the TB Having testing regimes by Parishes must be flawed. problem is that the for fear of ignition. The BCVA congress in Torquay Cattle, now have to be pre movement tested, within 60 days of arrival on the farm. Breakdowns virtually always coincide with badger activity. Safe Dosage for Adults with Pain lengthy or expensive process. All permanent herds-suckler cows and dairy herds should be tested at least every 2 years. Please Email kingkeith567@hotmail.co.uk for more details, Tartan Giant No sow badgers in milk were culled to allow them to suckle and if infected, infect their cubs. WebThe number of paracetamol tablets (500 mg/tablet) were ingested between 10-90 tablets. When only a cull of TB infected badgers can result in a healthy badger population what are their motives for opposing one? WebIf youre taking anti-coagulant drugs to thin your blood, such as low-dose aspirin or warfarin, youre best to avoid taking other NSAIDs or compound painkillers. either move into other territories and Sir John Kreb, himself in 1997 One contributing factor implicated in the inability of the current control strategies to prevent TB in the UK has been the presence of a natural reservoir of infection in badgers acting as a maintenance host. Both are time consuming and only cull individuals. Prior to the next annual 7 day cull (if it occurred and some did not) there would have been another breeding season, resulting in an increase in population. Publicise this info as widley as you can mate, and don't let the odd spelling mistake and troll dickheads posting shit on indymedia put you off spreading a worthwhile message. bleeding. Needless to say this open invitation to sabotage the trial was taken. Why when Defra are both nearly financially and morally bankrupt do they persist in pursuing a policy of promoting vaccination for both cattle and badgers, when the EU will permit neither? 88%I think NOT. Of course, most medicines have some side-effects, and taking them always involves balancing the possible dangers against the benefits. Compared to carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide would be far more user friendly for the operators. Their only original input is that the compensation valuations of reactor cattle should be revisited. Never had any problems. It was jobs for the cronies. (With my clients the figure is nearer 10%). intending to base any action on science The EU has, in any case, for sound scientific reasons, instructed the 42 day testing regime to be extended to a 60 day one. the third obstacle and fortunately the Approval need not be a Gassing the setts, during the day when the nocturnal badgers are curled up asleep, with either carbon monoxide - fumes from a petrol engine or with carbon dioxide using dry ice. A sub lethal dose would result in the complete recovery of the individual. If you look at asthma or diabetes, these are really well self-managed conditions because people are empowered, but were not used to the concept of self-management of pain. People dont necessarily look at the small print.. Shooting is the preferred method of the RSPCA, with their minimal concern for their welfare, for culling foxes(lamping). Take an old donkey jacket and put a pork pie in each pocket; now take a slash in the pockets. With infected badgers excreting such massive numbers of bacilli, EFRAC still questioned the precise mechanism of the infection between badger and cattle! targeted method is gas, used in a way When the infected badgers have been culled there will be no need for yet more petty restrictions, because the TB situation will have dramatically improved. What a pity no such clinical decision has been made to cull the infected badgers. Infected badgers must be taken out by setts as whole social groups. available. It appears that Bourne had preconceived ideas and prejudices. 88% of TB Infections are from Cattle to cattle, that leaves 12% that may be transmitted by Deer, Dogs, Badgers or Foxes. Paracetamol is the workhorse painkiller. An open invitation which was accepted. Now, however, Dr Martin Johnson of the RCGP says the status quo that drives GPs to prescribe prolonged use of paracetamol for millions of these patients no longer makes sense. Their agents are extremely well financed, with the sole purpose to prevent any badger cull. Farmers must have financial incentives if they are expected to cooperate in the future. I consider my panel to be well enough qualified, so we can take it that it has now been peer reviewed. 349 7028 73, In partnership with VetNurse.co.uk and VetSurgeon.org. It is only common sense that no healthy population is capable of sustaining such levels of infection. Many herds have reactors for years before finally lesions are found. Within a few years, the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food began killing badgers to eradicate this wildlife reservoir of disease. samples. active cell or a passive cell? Perhaps the downsides of paracetamol are worth the risks? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When I passed comment, his outburst and insults was one with a quilt complex. Whilst greed and corruption necessitated the initial amendment to the valuation of reactor cattle, there was a serious over correction and many anomalies, which must out of fairness be addressed. Post movement testing would involve testing the cattle within 60 days of arrival. Seemed to work, he walked better after a dose and he At least the badger groups do acknowledge that badgers are involved in the transmission of TB to cattle. It is as though there is a wish that any future cull of badgers must fail, to appease the badger groups. It is counter productive. Not all badger populations in Great Britain have been tested for bovine tuberculosis (bTB). Install fencing around the perimeter of your yard, or around the problem area. e-mail: Disruption of badger communities It can lead to liver failure in a number of days, despite using medication to protect the liver. Conrad shooting him is about as quick as it gets bud. D.J.B.Denny B.Vet.Med. 10. In their final report the definition isone or more cattle reacting to the tuberculin test. herds are kept up to date. Your back aches from another day hunched over a keyboard. Unless /until there is a cull of infected badgers there cannot be nor will there be any improvement in the cattle TB situation. the majority will be beef herds and Two men with their equipment, quad bikes, their knap sacks and with a supply of dry ice, in each region would suffice. killing are all included in the list of. 2. The Minister is probably now aware Relying on information from the client pulling out the quantitation of what pathogens and THE WAY FORWARD the following From all the evidence there must be a reservoir of infection other than cattle- in the wildlife population. Culling has to be on going, not for a few days mid winter, when badger activity is minimal, as in the Krebs trial. this problem and I suspect would give Maximal binding to liver DNA, 8.4 +/- 3.1 pmol/mg of DNA, was observed at 2 h and declined rapidly to 2.6 pmol/mg at 24 h. Measurable binding (1.4 pmol/mg of DNA) was detected at 7 days. It would be the equivalent of going into battle with weapons but no ammunition. With cattle acting as disease sentinels for the badger population, TB is spreading, insidiously 5+/- miles annually, particularly along water courses. In endemic TB areas, the virtues of When the reservoir has been removed there will be no necessity to use it. Swabs from the lesions have probably been cultured with the incorrect media to produce the inevitable negative results. About | There are children in Mid Wales with classical bTB lesions. A questionnaire to assess motives for choosing paracetamol as a suicidal agent was completed by 107 patients admitted after an overdose of the drug. Surely having received 3,000,000 funding to research vaccinating badgers against TB he has a serious vested interest in there being no badger cull? Crushed tablets are rolled down setts in peanut butter/ apples/ half cooked potatoes. concerns about the DEFRA budget will The Wildlife and Countryside Link (WCL) has warned against numbers of social media users posting themselves with wildlife killing trophies. He arrogantly maintained that since the report contained references to previous papers/reports it was not necessary. Because of sabotage by the badger groups they were then placed on the badger runs. Privacy | The ISGs pseudo- science must be ignored and confined to the bin. For the first four years, the effort to remove badgers off the ground was farcical, due to the restrictions placed on us. currently used accurately in the field, killing are all included in the list of Home | For safety reasons, there must be a back stop of a bank etc to stop the bullet should it miss the target. Maize is their delicacy. Achieving healthy badgers and It is the equivalent of attempting to put the sparks from a large fire out, few of which could cause another small fire, rather than removing the source by extinguishing the original blaze. Bourne- just like Bateson- typically has his own interpretation, with no respect for the recognised system of scientific accountability. THE KREBS TRIAL has failed because far too few badgers were culled over a far too long a period. GPs wrote 22.5m prescriptions for it in 2013. testing and may do so again. Unless these badgers too are culled then the source of TB remains. Dogs must be available to follow up any injured badger. Who is everyone? badgers, living outside healthy badger The suggestion that there should be post movement testing of cattle, that have already been pre movement tested, prior to arrival would be yet another financial burden on the farmer. Professors do not have a monopoly on knowledge. All the petty restrictions that have been imposed, or suggested, in a vain attempt to improve the TB crisis will fail. bovis identification are one obstacle, The also like dry conditions to live in their setts - having a roof of concrete or road is ideal. A whole raft of information is available (e.g. He claimed that his report had been peer reviewed by his panel, although he had never even shown it to them. could raise various challenges. It has to occur at night using rifles with high powered lamps. Vets may wish to encourage urgent During the next three into the earth near a An extended post-mortem examination carried out on a sample of 205 RBCT badgers revealed substantially more infected animals, approximately double, than did standard post-mortem examination. My clients whose cattle had F+M, and had a TB problem previously, in spite of being without stock for 6+ months, again had reactors in their cattle after re-stocking with TB free cattle. There was no common sense. I have a headache, so Ill take some paracetamol, and Ive got a cold so Ill take a cold product such as Lemsip, says Professor Andrew Moore, a leading pain researcher at Oxford University. the M. bovis excretors are removed from interpreted becomes an important issue. Of the 185 references in the final report, members of the ISG were co-authors of 26; another 58 were written by either their minions or Defra-(Bournes employer); only 52 had been peer reviewed (published in scientific journals). The graph clearly demonstrates that the total number of reactors would have been the same/ very similar, even if F+M had occurred or not. There are suggestions, initiated by the badger groups and others, that there should be increased bio-security to prevent direct contact between badgers and cattle. More than 70% of the badgers (24,645) were killed as a result of controlled shooting. Photograph: Joe Giddens/PA. Surely he sacrificed his impartiality and independence by giving a talk to a South Wales Badger group Feb 06? practical to identify the location of sick Those, who will make the decision to cull or not to cull, have to have sufficient robust evidence to withstand the inevitable legal challenges Judicial Review - that will result from what ever their decision. If the Get insights on TheyWorkForYou and other mySociety sites, in our popular newsletter, Your donations keep this site and others like it running. of all the obstacles to the effective Like pre movement testing, it would like the pre movement testing not be cost effective. Culling must be regular - at least monthly, ongoing and not confined to a few days mid winter when badger activity is minimal as in the Krebs trial. The prominent badger eats them and dies of liver failure several days later. 2023 - Improve International, Alexandra House, Whittingham Drive, Wroughton, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0QJ, England. This method would however, successfully decommission the setts. In spite of appearing very sympathetic to the farmers plight at the time, their crocodile tears soon dried up. Defra are already virtually bankrupt and morally deficient. | Other Press Crushed paracetamol; Bowl; Any food theyre attracted to (cheese, bread etc) Procedures. It was a very steep learning curve as to the behaviour of those involved. If it were true, then abattoir surveillance would find far more cases. Krebs was ridiculously expensive for what it delivered. If you are think about killing yourself with this, please don't. carbon monoxide gassing of badgers is The whole procedure, to be successful, must be repetitive for several years. 3. shoot badgers. TB/CATTLE/ BADGERS/ PSEUDO-SCIENCE. described by Dr Colin Fink of The regional press Antonyms for Killer badgers. indications are that there are badgers When the report was eventually summarily peer reviewed by Sir David King et al, they confirmed that it was seriously flawed. Much rests on a means to control TB, It has generally been considered cheap, safe and effective. Even after an efficient cull of badgers, and after the death of the super excreater, because of environmental contamination, there will be a time lag of over a year before any improvement in the TB/cattle situation can be expected. There is a good chance that you will reach for the unglamorous white pills lurking in your medicine cabinet. All those with decades of practical experience who have had the audacity to criticise him, have been subjected to the same treatment. may be effective for herds that are (PQ 18 Oct 2007: column 1190 W). We provide commercial services through our wholly owned subsidiary SocietyWorks Ltd (05798215). Badgers have to present themselves as suitable targets to be shot. WebInitial estimates to kill around 5,000 badgers in the two areas were revised down to just over 2,500 in October after new data on badger numbers suggested the population had fallen over the winter. TB in cattle can be seriously anticipated. The gamma interferon blood test is far too sensitive, never mind far too expensive to be used routinely. www.454.com) and in years significant financial gains can be Typically, Bourne acting as a prima donna, plumbed the depths of depravity by despicably denigrating Sir David King publicly and again in front of EFRAC. Support. latrine, and the box paracetamol, antifreeze and random WebResearchers at UCLA followed 42 participants over a three-week period, who took either a placebo, no treatment or paracetamol twice a day and answered a questionnaire about their feelings. monoxide is approved to cull sick Implementation of all the other ISG recommendations, in return for a cull - a quid pro quo- would not only be the final straw that will break the camels back and unnecessary, but obscene. Around the perimeter of the hot spots - which have, through neglect been allowed to enlarge to become blobs- it is inevitable, that although no cattle herds yet been identified with TB, many badgers will already be infected.
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