], my chum [singer-songwriter] Martin Newell showed me a couple of his own tunings that, although a bit off the wall, have an infectious jangle thats particularly inspiring when it comes to 60s Beatles/Monkees kind of tunes. I have to find my place in Slipknot and stay away from just following the guitars, so I play along with what the drums are doing. Overview. Marshall EL84 20/20 stereo power amps, Effects But the novelty of freedom at such a young age soon wore off and he called his mum, now living in Des Moines, to see if he would able to sleep on her couch and start a new life in Iowa where, while playing in death metal bands Anal Blast and Body Pit, he would eventually meet the other original members of Slipknot. The bass player always looked the coolest in the band! Like '1, 2, 3, 4' and '1, 3, 2, 4' to just try different finger patterns. When you play, do you prefer to play with a pick or your fingers? Im not a control freak and I want them to express themselves, and I wouldnt work with them if they werent great musiciansthats my criteria. Yaamaha even produced a replica of Pauls guitar , the FJ681 "Paul Simon . I've tried that set but I couldn't hang with the .038 low E. Too loose. But everything needs some editing, and to pare it down to what you finally hear, we had to make a lot of choices. Those were round wound. A long time ago we used to do a cover of that song 'The Humpty Dance' and I would have to tune during the song, as we're playing.". Recorded at Download 2009, Paul talked to TG about his solid playing style, his reason for being a bass player and his tips for making you play better. As a standing tribute to the late Paul Gray, TG presents this never-before published interview with the Slipknot bassist. What kind of tips can you give us for improving finger stretches when playing bass guitar? But also, Ive never known trust like the nine.. We spend a lot of time thinking about Paul, Shawn told us in 2018. I had to go back and listen to them. He will never be forgotten. He was in a bad place, I can remember Jim and I coaching him through some stuff, and I didnt realise until years later, but it was over then. Some of it I tap out, some of it is more simple, and some of it I have to follow the guitars and do runs and leads and stuff like that. I used to use heavier strings, but a couple of years ago I injured my hand and I had to go down a gauge. I made Paul punch in a lot, but a lot of it comes with modifying parts and changing things to be something a little different without changing their overall feel or what theyre trying to say as players. We recorded at Atomic Sound in Brooklyn, which is a beautiful studio with a lovely, big wooden live room. After the set, the band huddled around Pauls jumpsuit, mask and bass as Til We Die poured out of the PA. My friends are all hurting, came Jims line. There had been a headline-generating arrest for drugs and drink-driving in 2003, sobriety, relapses and recent treatment for addiction. We have a tendency towards being first-takers together. It dealt with depression and survivors guilt, but also the strong love Corey had spoken about in the press conference. The day after it happened, we were all over the place, and we all kind of made our way to my house, he recalled. Most of the guys you cited developed their sounds around a Rickenbacker bass, and thats been your instrument of choice over the years. On May 25, 2010, the members of Slipknot filed into a room to face the press, on one of the bleakest days of their lives. Weve a few of these units and they all seem to have an unfortunate tendencyonce or twice a tour, perhapsto freeze mid-song. Title Written by Originally by Original date Covered by ; Before I Forget . A fan of British blues-rock players like the Groundhogs Tony McPhee and Frees Paul Kossoff, and of Summer of Love psych-rock and the pomp of 60s orchestral pop music, the Captain has never relied merely on power chords and beeralthough those have often been a part of his recipe. Some of Pauls favourite stuff was the crazy shit, yknow? Corey told us in 2014. Its a real players bass and has obviously been played and loved for over 40 years and it really feels like it! The only tweaking was in the mix with a bit of reamping. Duality (Vol. Aug 24, 2009. The bass player often partnered with ex-drummer Joey Jordison, fleshing out early anthems such as Surfacing and Spit It Out, the former including riffs hed written back in his Body Pit years. Electric Guitar String Set Gauges What is B standard tuning? He was the sort of person who, when he got his meagre paycheck from working at the gas station, would go down to the bar and spend it all buying people drinks. After then he used steel strings. 1974 Rickenbacker 4001, Amps Hed listen to Cliff Burtons bass fills repeatedly, rewinding his tapes until he had figured them out. . Stay up to date with in depth music reviews, exclusive interviews and widespread coverage of whats happening from your favourite music genre. 2,977 1,264. Steve is an idol of mine and I actually got to meet him - I listened to him a lot because he's all over the bass when he plays.". Paul Gilbert Guitars and Gear List (2023 Update) Christopher D. Schiebel June 24, 2022. Eventides Tony Agnello is a big fan of the Damned and brought some secret prototypes to Atomic Sound for the Captain to use, but Im sworn to absolute secrecy about what they are and do. Everything he did, he did for everyone around him. Eventide H9, Strings and Picks Sensible: Unlike some punk bassists who could only play by numbers, with the potential song disintegration if they lost their way, Paul can really busk it up! We had two weeks in the studio, which included rehearsals, so there was no time for faffing about changing amps. And none of us would be on the path that were on right now in life, or have the sorts of lives that we have, without him.. Take the song 'Scissors', from the first album, where I'm tuned to an octave below A. Whats your dual playing relationship like? Surfacing is a perfect example because its so unhinged, but after the crazy bridge section it breaks down so hardcore that it grooves! There was, however, a lot more to the man than extreme noise Paul cited names like Flea and Bootsy Collins alongside more audible influences such as Cliff Burton and Steve Harris, describing the latter as an idol for his ability to play all over the bass and leave no fret untouched. Perfection is overrated! Rotosound (.009.042) Ive used them since I discovered them back in 1976, and Ive tried all the other makes and I always go back to Rotosound. 3: (The Subliminal Verses), 2004), in a heartfelt tribute to his old bandmate, The inside story of Vol. Perfection is overrated! Other guitars at the studio were a StratI never got on with them as the volume knob is too close to bridge; a Rickenbacker 12-string, which I found to be lovely; and the studio acoustic, which had an almost unplayably high action. Thanks! Gray has been in and out of the bandmostly outsince 1984.Photo by Tony Woolliscroft. But the first bass I used to try out for this band, because I didn't have a bass and I'm left-handed, was some no-name bass but kind of like a double cutaway so it kind of looked like an SG maybe? However, first-generation punks the Damned dont care much about any of that. BA1 1UA. 3 era, he was unequivocal about the feelings Slipknot had stirred in him from the outset. He turned up to rehearsal with a right-handed bass borrowed from his brothers friend, Frankensteind into a left-handed one, and played the regular guitar parts on it. Im curious where all of the blues and lead stuff comes from. The Damned play their unofficial anthem, Smash It Up, from 1979s Machine Gun Etiquette, at BBC Radio 6s annual Christmas Punk Party. No tricks, no pedals, no nothing. as for basses, I think Paul generally used flats on his Hofner and Rick, not sure about the Jazz bass he may have used later on (and no idea about the Fender 6 stringer that John and George sometimes used) tjmicsak Member Messages 5,690 Mar 24, 2010 #4 You can hear them on the older stuff. But it was seeing a nascent Slayer touring the merciless Hell Awaits that made the biggest impact on the young Paul Gray. Some of it I tap out, some of it is more simple and some of it I have to follow the guitars and do runs and leads and stuff like that. The guy I got it from says that it was a factory custom that had been requested to have the toaster pickup put on it. He has been adding internal mikes for amplification. I remember when I set up a photoshoot, that was a bad day. Seven months later, Paul was gone. So many things set him apart from the rest: his attention to detail; his ear for hooks; his approach to a riff; his ability to hear several variations on a riff so it never felt repetitive; his vision for songs or passages; his single-mindedness when it came to fighting for what was best in a song I could go on and on here.. You can coax many different sounds out of a Rickenbacker depending on your fingering technique, what gauge pick you use, what year it is. Jim and I would be writing, and wed get close to some stuff and be like, What would Paul do? We try to utilise that all the time. Its a mission statement that encapsulated The Nines bloodthirsty ambitions and set the bar incredibly high early on, the verse shifting between a staccato and muted delivery to a more open, groove-orientated feel for tension and release. But more importantly than anything else, Paul Grays songs and performances have resonated louder and prouder with each and every passing year. According to his own words, these strings were used on his Les Paul during the recording of Wheels of Fire (1968). Gary Moore played Gibson Les Paul guitars. It isn't THAT different, I listened to the rest of the album with the exception of Bother it sounded like Slipknot with the proper amount of band members. Edinboro, PA. What is it about them that you like so much?Gray: I was very much drawn to Rickenbacker sounds, to the point where Id listen to the radio as a kid and was always trying to figure out if it was a Rickenbacker I was hearing. It really fascinates me how basses that are essentially the same can still be so different. Pure Ric-into-Ampeg glory. I'm trying to figure out what type of strings he was using in around '64. Total Guitar has not edited this interview, deciding instead to leave as . Kill. Paul Gray: The Man Behind the Mask. The K! Strings 1 : Rotosound Swing Bass 66 (Roundwound) Gauges 1 : 46-63-80-102. As Slipknot were an anomaly with nine members, dominated by three drummers, he had to work out how to cut through and complement the ferocious noise. Its a drag to repeat yourself, and thats why no two Damned albums sound alike. One has a very chunky neck, and thats a 74, and the 77 has a thinner neck than a Fender Jazz bass. Offstage, he couldnt have been more different. .60 mm Dunlop Tortex. The previous day hed passed away from an accidental overdose of prescription drugs, at just 38 years old. We came in through the front and walked through the crowd, just dead-cold staring at people like we didnt know they were there, says Anders, who left the band later when Corey Taylor was recruited. I became slightly obsessed with the solos on Strange Town and the way the excitement builds in them, carrying the listener away on a tidal wave of excitement. Louder is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. I was writing lyrics when Paul and Joey played this to me, Corey told Kerrang! . But in the beginning, after we got our record deal, I went to Warwick actually. Largely penned by Paul and Shawn Clown Crahan before the band had formed, the song was originally titled Slipknot though the group ended up using the name for one of their first shows. Never having had a lesson, I play completely by ear and I often overstretch myself. Luckily, it didnt choke at the Albert Hall during our 40th anniversary show. The Ibanez PGB1 electric bass guitar is the choice of Slipknot's Paul Gray. For bass, he uses two main string sets: Hofner H1133B Flat Wound Nickel strings and RotoSound Tru Bass 88 Nylon Tapewound strings, both of which have a tremendous impact on his tone. I try to avoid soloing for its own sake and you have to judge when its run its course and its best to get out for something else to take over, or risk boring the listener for ones own ego gratification. So all those prominent bass players really caught my ear and I thought it was so great, because it was such an important part of the song. I'm able to leave gear at home, and that was the same with Ibanez. The Damned opened for T. Rex back in the day, and I even asked Captain why we never did this before. What gear are you using live?Sensible: We have built up a collection of Marshall EL84 20/20 20-watt stereo power amps, which might even have warmed up Mrs. Thatchers cold heart if someone had thought of it! Brenna called her the best gift anybody could have ever left me. I don't know what he used on actual recording. They werent making silly faces and all that like the other guys. BA1 1UA. Feb 21, 2015. Peavey has been amazing to me and because they have worldwide distribution it makes it easier for me when touring. Eleanor was promoted to the role of Editor at Metal Hammer magazine after over seven years with the company, having previously served as Deputy Editor and Features Editor. Through gigging, they met future members of Slipknot: Shawn Crahan in Heads On The Wall, Jim Root in Atomic Opera, Joey Jordison in Modifidious. [Editors note: Thats Andrew Pinching, the Damneds drummer.] While their 1999 self-titled debut would prove to be a landmark, 2001s Iowa earned them a No.1 in the UK, while 2004s Vol. I loved anything with a galloping bass line that challenged the listener beyond widdly guitar stuff or a bloke shrieking his head off. I havent a clue about scales and stuff. 3: (The Subliminal Verses), 2004), Vermilion (Vol. Based on that statement, it is likely that these strings were used even prior to that, were his main choice before he started playing Stratocasters (at which point he began using Ernie Ball strings) How long have you been playing bass guitar for, Paul, and why did you choose bass as your main instrument? I knew the guitar lines and could have jammed those, but the bass parts were totally different and I was like, Fuck! I had to go back and listen to them. They received a settlement in 2018. It's worked for me So far anyway! PAUL GRAY, who was the lead singer of the 1980s pop band Wa Wa Nee, has died aged 54. Bassist Paul, aka The Pig, aka #2, appeared in a black uniform, steadily headbanging and riffing while chaos erupted around him. I think it was made in February, which was just a month or two after they stopped doing the toaster pickups. "I started with Ampeg but now I'm with Peavey. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Theres a reason why the low-end on the debut album closer feels extra rumbly, even ghostly, at points. Its not that he didnt like them of course he did, he went and saw Stone Sour, Murderdolls but when Paul would come home he would get really sad because all hed want to do was Slipknot. Paul had previously dabbled in a band in Minneapolis called F.O.R., toured with Kyuss offshoot Unida, recorded with rockers Reggie And The Full Effect, and was poised to go out with metal super- group Hail!. They also sound totally different. staff present the albums that shaped their individual 2022s! One has a clanky sound and one has much more growl. They toured All Hope Is Gone across nine gruelling legs, starting in July 2008 in Washington, taking in Download in June 2009, and finishing in Las Vegas that October. Which isnt the end of the world, of course, but there seems to be no fix, according to chatter on gear forums anyway. During the press conference, percussionist Shawn Clown Crahan, who co-founded Slipknot with Paul, wanted the world to know how devastating his death was. At one point, Paul drifted back to LA, but was persuaded back by Anders and Shawn. Warwick was an awesome company but they were a small company and it was more difficult to get stuff on the road if I needed it. String gauge. Doing that actually made me fall in love with bass guitar and that's why I became a bass player.". Forever #2 of 9. With Slipknot, my bass playing is a little more laidback and subdued. Genre politics and hyperbole aside, the Damned have always been the musicians band among the classic punks, and the group has always operated with a policy of lawlessness when it comes to the music they make. Premier Guitar features affiliate links to help support our content. Simple as it may be, especially when compared to their earlier tracks, Duality is also the sound of The Nine at their most effective its four minutes and 12 seconds condensed down to three and a half for a single version that would become directly responsible for converting new armies of metalheads around the world. How would you describe your playing style? Despite being less overtly punk than the typical Damned record, I managed to squeeze the odd solo in here and there. As his bandmates drift in and out, its really just #2 holding everything together from beginning to end. Even if you're playing metal bass, listen to jazz, country, punk rock or whatever because you can always pick up tips from other players. The 1980s were yet another decade that brought massive changes in music. Slipknot is more dangerous now than ever and I have the fuel known as Paul Dedrick Gray in my blood, he said, even more fired up than usual. During the third Slipknot record I met Dave Ellefson from Megadeth and he said, 'Try this out man' so I played through his Peavey amp. Its a clairvoyant chemistry that cant be really pinned down. What strings did Paul Gray use? There is no definitive answer to this question as Paul McCartney has been known to use a variety of different strings on his Hofner bass over the years. Although not as light as some other guys on this . He was loved around that scene.. verdict on the 50 albums that shaped 2022. The best record they ever made! Onstage, as it filled with sweat and snot and spit, he cut a forbidding, expressionless figure, often bent double as he sunk down into those low-end notes. Clapton used these strings in the early days, around the Cream era. Apart from a regular open-G blues tuning [Editors note: Check out Silly Kids Games on The Black Album for an example. Unmasked, heads bowed and choked with emotion, they paid tribute to their friend and bandmate, Paul Gray. Although the Captain was stationed on bass for the Damneds first few recordings, he emerged on the groups third album, 1979s Machine Gun Etiquette, as a dexterous and melodic guitarist with a knack for penning killer hooks that draw on a surprisingly vast range of influences. I imagine you must use Rotosound strings, based on your influences and the tones youve gone for over the years? Search Ray Brown for details. Luckily it all seems to work most of the time anyway. Unsurprisingly, Evil Spirits sounds very much like a continuation of the sonic tack the group were on at that point in their career. He is honoured, but can never be replaced. I think they picked me because they collectively like various albums Ive made: especially the T. Rex and Bowie stuff. Paul Dedrick Gray Born April 8, 1972 Died May 24, 2010 Country United States IPI 00344172381 21 works Affiliation ASCAP Member of Slipknot Bass (1995-2010) Meta. As the date drew near, it was clear Shawn was ready to go all out. Tragically after writing, recording and touring four albums in the greatest metal band of a generation Paul passed away on May 24, 2010. Today, we celebrate the songs which epitomised his pivotal role within The Nine. Contact our experts for a recommendation of great alternatives. Basses I like a bit of everything, drawing your attentionhopefully not unwiselyto the fact that I had the first rap hit by a white artist with 1981s Wot! Please dont forget the exclamation mark by the way. The Kerrang! Total Guitar has not edited this interview, deciding instead to leave as much of Paul's personality and character in as possible RIP Paul. The Damneds vision of punk has included liaisons with deep psychedelia, piano-driven pop, farfisa-dotted slam-dance anthems, and proto-gothall laced up with the anger and devil-may-care attitude that made punk punk. Except for now I can afford drinks I can buy a few people drinks instead of having to bum money every day!, Corey vividly remembers getting the news of Pauls death. in July 2008. While the Damned are fronted by a crooning vampire-poet of a man in Dave Vanian, much of the groups sweeping sonic vision has hinged upon the guitar work, songcraft, and imagination of founding member Captain Sensible (born Raymond Burns). HiddenCharms said: I don't know if this is true, but I remember reading that Duane Allman and Jimi Hendrix used Fender Rock'n'Roll Strings guaged 10-38. I was used to hearing the guitar in each song and the bass is there and you can hear it filling out the song, but I really had to listen to his parts. John Paul Jones. Just seeing them up there with the red lights and smoke it was all evil. Paul and Anders ended up forming a death metal band called Body Pit, with Anders on vocals. As far as opening gambits go, the first musical track on Slipknots debut is as good as it gets. It was actually a badass guitar, it was a Gibson Flying V and it was left-handed, and it ruled. Corey called him their secret weapon. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. "But then I ended up going to Ibanez on the last album because - I can't remember where we were - but I went to a pawn shop and picked up this Ibanez ATK that they've stopped making and I just loved the way it played and sounded, so I started playing it too and Ibanez approached me to offer me a deal. ", Don't miss the latest deals, news, reviews, features and tutorials. Dunlop wah Gary Moore preferred Dean Markley Electric Guitar strings he used .010 set (2504B) or a .009 set (2508). Taking his place in a finalised line-up of vocalist Corey Taylor, percussionists Shawn Crahan and Chris Fehn, drummer Joey Jordison, guitarists Jim Root and Mick Thomson, sampler Craig Jones and turntablist Sid Wilson, they exploded on the brink of a new millennium, in a mass of masks and coveralls, attracting growing crowds of writhing, devoted maggots. 1996 Fender Custom Shop Bonnie Raitt Signature Stratocaster (Atomic Studios) "Oh yeah, of course. Im an indie dude or an alternative dude, whatever the fuck that means. Originally posted by volumefiend. Feb 11, 2014 #3. He had a difficult and itinerant childhood, and his father died by suicide. I was lucky enough to see them all play club venues, where you could really watch what their fingers were doing. Actually I played guitar first - hang on, my sunglasses are totally fucking up here - I played guitar first and never picked up a bass, wasn't interested in it at all. Though omitted from later reissues, the ninth track from the Slipknot debut still towers among their darkest moments: lyrically, thanks to a title inherited from a fictional story about a girl who had been kidnapped and buried alive, and sonically, with Paul dialling in a woolly bass tone containing virtually no treble frequencies. By their own admission, it was a chaotic time for The Nine Clown once described the sessions as hell and this track in particular as their way of saying, "Fuck off and leave us alone.". They are EADGBD for songs in A and EADGAD for D. Paul, what basses did you use on Evil Spirits? One of my brothers friends had a weird right-handed bass, which I strung left-handed, and a practice amp. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Early producer Ross Robinson, who worked on the groups self-titled debut and its Iowa follow-up, went as far as labelling him the bands secret weapon, blessed with absolute integrity and a talent for coming out with the most unbelievable ideas. The top 3 are unusually light for a blues man. Rickenbacker 12-string (Atomic Studios), Amps It suits the Damned material better and cleans up nicer with the volume knob than a straight SG Standard, for some reason. I have to put on the heaviest string I can find to actually do it. There was a band in our town that had a great bass player called Mark and he could play jazz and funk, so I sat down with him about five or six times and learned a lot of techniques. Paul himself remarked on how it was a sound you felt rather than heard, more atmospheric than melodic in nature. The main guitar is a 1959 Les Paul Standard . Really being up against the clock meant we were just going for it. Later he sometimes used strings wrapped with black nylon to get more of a thumping sound. "I think I started playing bass in 1990, which is what? The 15-minute epic that closes the Knots second album showcased a very different side to Pauls playing, more '90s rock than extreme metal in feel sharing similarities with the kind of lines heard in bands like Tool and Pearl Jam. Permutations! With Slipknot, my bass playing is a little more laid back and subdued, like I get spots where I get to do some stuff I guess, but it's hard to kind of like We have three drummers, there's a lot of low end, you know what I mean? What Strings Did Freddie King Use? (Image credit: John McMurtrie) "Yesterday we lost our brother, and the world seems a little smaller because of it," began Corey Taylor. Paul was there from the very, very beginning. Tony McPhees Groundhogs performance of Cherry Red on Top of the Pops departed radically from the shows usual fare, and that was the moment I decided to get a guitar and only a Gibson SG would do. Rad in plaid, Captain Sensible strikes a pose and a power chord onstage. When I tried out I constantly turned myself down or turned the tone knob down by accident. Incredibly, he was welcomed into the band, Vexx. Paul Dedrick Gray was born in LA on April 8, 1972. What was the first bassline you ever tried to play? "I always experiment and go with whatever the song requires. I thought it was the coolest thing ever., By the age of 16, Paul was living in an apartment with his friends Frank and Chris, jamming Danzig songs in the living room under the moniker Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. Everyone in Thin Lizzy used those picks, even Phil Lynott. As Paul got to know his new instrument, he developed a strong attachment. Its cheaper, too, and once youve smoothed the frets and boshed on a scratchplate, youve got yourself a cracking guitar for what it costs. Call us at 800-449-9128. A subscription makes a thoughtful gift for both family and friends. A metalhead through and through, he nevertheless began listening to funk and jazz, taking a few lessons to learn slap and pop techniques. Those strings are absolutely the go-to strings for me and I absolutely love them. Oh, and he didnt have a bass, either. Paul, youve name-checked unexpected influences for a guy whos made his bones playing punk: particularly Felix Pappalardi from Mountain and Roger Glover of Deep Purple.Paul Gray: I was always drawn to the bass end for some reason. There was nothing funny going on with the studio desk: everything was flat. Captain Sensible: In the late 60s, this amazing bunch of blues guitarists appeared on the U.K. scene at the same time I started going to gigs: Paul Kossoff, Tony Iommi, Ritchie Blackmore, Mick Abrahams, Peter Green, Jimmy Page. Ross Robinson, producer of the first two records, told NME: As a musician, he brought absolute integrity. "We were on Ozzfest and I had the one Soundgear bass, which was really old, with no back-up guitar and we were playing all these shows. Technical Editor Bass Gear Magazine. But his music lives on, much like the band he was fundamental in creating. I went into the local music store and heard some guys talking about needing a bass player for their band, they did covers of Slayer and Metallica songs, So, not knowing anybody and wanting to meet people, I told them I could play bass even though I had never played one in my life. This is all from memory. Although Slipknot's Paul Gray was known to many simply as . Slipknot had arrived. Hellfest reveal 2023s line-up with headliners Iron Maiden, Slipknot, Mtley Cre and KISS. It's definitely a different thing compared to if I was playing in a punk band with only one guitar player and I could fucking, y'know, noodle around and do lots of stuff. Cliff Burton was awesome and since we were doing Metallica covers, I really had to sit down and learn Cliff's parts because he was all over the place. It was his older brother, Jay, who introduced him to the music that would change his life Black Sabbath, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Stones, The Beatles, Alice Cooper and Kiss. And that goes for the records, too!Captain Sensible, We have built up a collection of Marshall EL84 20/20 20-watt stereo power amps, which might even have warmed up Mrs. Thatchers cold heart if someone had thought of it! Captain Sensible, You can coax many different sounds out of a Rickenbacker depending on your fingering technique, what gauge pick you use, what year it is. We had to kick everything up a notch, and that required the Captain playing a bunch of different guitars in the studio. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). What gauge is the low E string? Who cares if theres a few jazz notes in there. When his pregnant wife, Brenna, and their family had tried to stage an intervention to prevent Paul from harming himself, he checked into a hotel. I dont know much about scales, but I like the choice of notes in some Indian music and some of that creeps in occasionally with the McPhee, Berry, Hendrix knock-offs.
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