The Hornady 140 grain FTX bullet is different from other 357 jacketed bullets a couple of important points need to be made right off: Cases will need to be trimmed to 1.240" instead of the usual 1.290". This morning I shot my first 357mag handloads in my Ruger GP-100. of Bullseye alot as a . , to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. . engine block. Some of the components John uses for the .357 Magnum for leverguns. Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. If you do use it in your 357Mag revolver, could you do a simple test for us? (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. If you want to download your .357 Magnum ammo 2400 is a better choice. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. A Magnum primer will help get a complete burn with HP38/W231. bought commercially (in the 70s). 38 Special - +P 125 Grain SJHP - Remington HTP - 500 Rounds - Best Low Recoil 38 Special Ammo. recommended), (you can try 3.3 gr. I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. I'll expand and experiment once I fully understand what I'm doing. No purchase necessary. I'll get there and with everyone's help here I think things will go fairly well. and 8 lb. Contest open to U.S. residents only. I have gotten the best results/grouping with all three using 18 grains of 300MP with Hornady 158 grain XTP's. I also want to reload .38's with it. No you will not. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. All of these bullets (below) can be used successfully in the .357 Magnum rifle When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. These bullets have a cannelure. That is especially true if you handload. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. Any suggestions? Contest void where prohibited by law. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. All my .38/.357 guns love this load (S&W 642/Ruger Blackhawks/Ruger GP100/Marlin 1894 Cowboy). Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: in the field and very accurate. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Muzzle velocity from a 4-5/8 Ruger Old Model Flat-Top are 1,050 fps and 1,150 feet per second respectively. flatnose hard cast bullet. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. It's a super accurate load in the Model 19s and the Model 27. .38 Special +P loads make We try 2 different powders, Hodgdon Lilgun and Alliant 300-MP. sufficiently flat for small game hunting. I'm a little OCD when it comes to reloading and just have to try everything so I can see what the differences are. By focusing on using it for multiple roles, you can save a lot on organization and components, not to mention guns, and youre not likely to miss a beat in efficiency or enjoyment. The Nylon 66, a relatively inexpensive rimfire with faux woodgrain, was the first successful synthetic-stock firearm. The big advantage with the rifle is the fact it is not only easier to shoot at longer ranges but it also picks up significant muzzle velocity over a sixgun barrel. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. I have Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. cast, but bullet is unstable and not To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The same thing happened 20 years later with the new .44 Magnum and the Winchester Model 1892, which had originally been chambered in .44-40. Any of the recommendations here are spot on, but I will say I've always used Unique and 2400 for .357's, buy it by the 4lb container, never had issues with metering, but I'm sure it depends on the powder measure your using. I love it because of how well it meters in my Dillon powder measure. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Hodgdon - 700-X. If handgun hunting is your thing, or you want to carry a revolver for protecting from four-legged predators in the wild, the FTX bullet doesnt provide as much benefit as it does in a rifle. Much cheaper to load your own. By FortuneCookie45LC. Unless one goes into abnormally dangerous areas or situations, many people, like me, are willing to sacrifice some power for day-to-day comfort. I had Milt Morrison slick up the action and take the trigger back to 3-1/2 lbs. The action was not as smooth as I would like and the trigger pull was much too heavy at 8-1/2 lbs. K-Mart Classics: Remingtons Nylon Rimfires Engineered To Last. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. amounts listed above (but not where it says start load), and work up to the (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Imostly stay with gas check bullets in all .357 Magnum loads simply because they seem to shoot a lot more accurately. The loads are not updated yearly. Minnesota Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. Marc - accipere facile, sed sumite! This same load is awesome in Marlin lever guns, but you might have to modify your bullet a bit depending on what you shoot; Ive seen some Ubertis that didnt care for the rounded flatpoint bullet profile. Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New. While these arent pleasant to shoot, getting mauled is worse. The .38 Special has a Max pressure of 17,000 PSI whereas the .357 Magnum can go as high as 35,000 PSI. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. I load this bullet over 13.0 grains of H110 and 12.0 grains of #2400. The famous .357 Magnum, Any information or suggestions offered in this article are intended to be put into practice only by serious shooters and handloaders with proper training and using safe reloading methods and recipes. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. The Browning was dropped in 1986 but the Marlin and Rossi remain and we also have the .357 Magnum available in both 1873 and 1892 Winchesters, the Henry Big Boy and for a while, Ruger even offered their bolt action, five-shot, stainless steel Model 77/357. Ammo, Inc. Signature .38 Special - 125 Grain TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) Brass Cased Centerfire Pistol Ammunition - Best Stopping Power .38 Special Ammo. I've found it to be a good all around powder for most straight wall handgun cartridges. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. Then use whatever you can find cheap for 38 special right now. They claim it is position insensitive but, I am not buying that. They shoot very accurately out of my Model 586. Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition Lyman Piston & Revolver Rottiejake said: I'm caught up with all my loads except .357 mag. What powder is best for reloading 357 magnum hunting loads, using 180gr bullets? ", http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show58-SCW-results, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. So, youll need a .357 magnum firearm and a reloading press to really enjoy the cartridge. If you are looking for a target/plinking load for your 357's I have found using 5.5 grains of Unique behind either a 158 grain LSWC or Rainier Plated bullet to be very accurate and pleasurable to shoot. When I began (starting with .38's), I picked up a pound of Hodgdon 'Universal Clays'. ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the I purchased my first when they first came out and our family has added three more since then. Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. H110 and 296 require Magnum primers and like to be loaded at the upper end. For the .357 mag I load hard cast bullets at full power (1,250 fps +/-) mostly using 2400 and AA#9. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. It has been my favorite .357Mag load for 40+yr. Big enough that components can be easily handled, small enough not to need special gear, and common enough to be inexpensive. $175.00. Commercial .38s make for light recoil, inexpensive .357 practice rounds. The reason my loads for the .357 Magnum levergun are the same as they are for the .357 Magnum sixgun is simply because the whole point is to be able to use the same load in both. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. JavaScript is disabled. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Hornady - Critical Defense 38 Special Ammo - Most Versatile 38 Special Ammo. I'm assuming I can just use any 170 gr bullet data but want to make sure. JSP, .357 with JHP, .357 with JSP. This is super-low recoiling, and in a relatively heavy gun like a S&W 686, you may find shorter split times than the autoloader shooters. 10 gauge. While visiting a gun shop south of us a year or so ago they recommended against 2400. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Load data is available for 9mm Luger, .38 Super Auto, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .40 S&W, .44 S&W Special, .44 Remington Magnum, .45 ACP and . So many options, so little experience! Like they say, this is close enough for government work. I use it in .38 Special, .357 Mag, 45 ACP and even light loads in .41 Mag. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. State Agency: Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: section of the Speer Reloading Manual Number 14 Winchester #209 Primers for Shotshells. At the VERY least, use a copper Gas Check lead bullet or a copper plated bullet. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Paul, I just looked at the online loading center for Hodgdon. ), (See note on Powders below or read all about various You find load data for cartridges in caliber .357 Magnum with all common powders and bullets by clicking the "Loads in this caliber" button above. These figures are all for a 4" all purpose, and I also use them for .38 special, just less of it. The minimum charge of WW296 (H-110 same stuff ) Winchester used to publish in the re-loading pamphlet was 14.5gr and SP Magnum primer, under a 158gr SWC. Clays OR 5.0 gr. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. The heavy 158-180 grain bullets are the No purchase necessary. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. Powders.). One powder for 38 and 357mag. My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. New. IMR TrailBoss are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. Contest open to U.S. residents only. In Cowboy Action Shooting, 45 Colt guns are popular for authenticitys sake, but .357 guns are more practical from a cost standpoint. NRA Member..SWCA Member..Semi-Retired, But Not Dead Yet. A comprehensive used reloading setup often comes well below the price of a new gun, and if you have one, it can make your existing Magnums so diverse in function its like owning multiple guns. Let me be the 1st to say that you can never go wrong with Unique. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. The Hornady 158 XTP-JHP over 15.5 grains of H110 is just under 1,600 fps in the Marlin and Rossi .357 leverguns. Life is worth living make every minute of every day count for you. When customers ask us which powder is the best, the short answer is always "it depends!" . Thanks for your patience. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, State Agency: gunmans right on i have used the old stand by blue dot for mag loads back when i loaded a lot of 357 mag. But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. Your trying to do what I was trying to do for a whole year. 357 caliber. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: As great as the .357 is, it doesnt show its potential unless you start handloading it. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Contest open to U.S. residents only. A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy They list Titegroup for .357 mag with a 158 gr XTP. JavaScript is disabled. Hodgdon recommends lighter-than-usual powder charges for the 140 grain FTX. Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: found the 140-146 grain bullets to be a good all-around choice for use 6 shots and point the muzzle upwards before each shot across a chronograph and 6 shots with the muzzle pointed down over the same chronograph. Just me, and, I have never had a bad time using Titegroup but, sticking to good reloading practices dictates that there should be enough case fill so as to avoid any possibility of a double charge. For the 140 grain JHP the Newer magnum cartridges eventually surpassed it in power, but 5, No. I have probably tried a little of every thing and I seem like Titegroup a little better than any other pistol powder that I have used. The .357 Magnum: Most Versatile Handgun Round Ever? Iowa Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: If you hunt in predominantly tight spaces with shorter sight lines, a .357 lever rifle is a wonderful gun to carry all day. Read More Handloading Articles All entries must be received by giveaway end date. For midrange loads I use Power Pistol, and for full magnum loads I use 2400. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. MV is 1360 fps and the ME is 575 ft. lbs. ETA: Nevermind. . If part of your plinking enjoyment . Powders .) 357 Armour Piercing(no longer legal or available), 160 gr. Recipe. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a . personal loads where noted. 07-24-2009, 06:32 PM #12. claybird. Reloading Manual shows that 13.9 grains of H110 will drive According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. I use 4.2 grs. Hornady XTP HP's is Accurate Arms #9 powder. Lets cut to the chase. One of my favorite heavy bullets is the 200-gr. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. It is suitable only for full power magnum handgun loads and .30 Carbine loads. For hotter .357 Magnum loads, any of the Hornady 158-grain jacketed bullets (hollow points, flat points, and full metal jacket flat points) work superbly well with 15.7 . Cartridge Use & HistoryThe .357 Smith & Wesson Magnum, .357 S&W Magnum, .357 Magnum, or 933mmR as it is known in unofficial metric designation, is a smokeless powder cartridge with a .357-inch (9.07 mm) bullet diameter. Free shipping for many products! (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. But if you dont want to buy a new gun to try them out, you can get by with the .357 magnum. Sounds like things are going real good with the reloading, Chance. JHP, 125 gr. Purchase A PDF Download Of The GUNS Magazine December 2019 Issue Now! 2, No. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. a slower burning powder, I suggest H-4227, LilGun, W-296,2400, HS6 or No. When I dress Western, nothing beats the classic good looks of my Smith & Wesson (S&W) 586 .357 revolver. Contest void where prohibited by law. Copyright 2004, 2016 by Chuck Hawks. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: I prefer the Unique or Universal as (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. FPS) (unless at least using a Gas Check) (with pure lead wadcutters, do not Maximum versatility? Both sports demand power and accuracy, so a combination of a heavy lead bullet, slow powder, and a longer barrel will be a benefit. I'm just putting together a short list to get me going. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, The Mismatched Model 27: A Curious Revolver, The Colt Mk III Lawman: A Forgotten Revolver, Retro Review: Smith & Wesson LadySmith Revolvers. for the magnum pistol loads and for rifle. If youre looking for target loads on 38/357 than any fast burning pistol powder will work. The firearm hobby is a broad one, with many subdivisions of interest and activity. rules basically demand a .45 ACP moonclip gun, but in IDPA the speedloader-fed .357 magnums are alive and well. I would exclude H110 altogether. grain JHP with 583 ft. lbs. Safety Warning: Andy C is an experienced shooter and handloader. 7, #2230, and #2460 are products of Accurate Arms Company WMR, 760, 748, 231, 296 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. If you do use Titegroup, be aware that it is a particularly compact powder. Lets just say midway tween low and high , In my opinion the K frames just aren't stout enuf for a steady diet of high pressure stuff. I'd be happy with 1300 or 1400. Christian, Conservative American, Male, all three of which are currently under attack! Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Full copper plated bullets are a good idea for .357 loads instead of plain lead. These will give you some versatility with power levels from medium to heavy magnum loads and they work well in several calibers. It has a steel core and will pierce an . Accuracy can be greatly refined through reloading, though I would go factory for self defense. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. (I) Giveaway ends February 28, 2023. H110 and Win 296 is the most common magnum loads for .357 Magnum. use hot loads). Reloading bench, featuring the very reloadable .357. vtducrider said: Not looking for full power 357mag loads. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. It won't give velocities QUITE as impressive as H110 or IMR-4227, but it can be started at 10% under max . No purchase necessary. I'll load a few trips to the range worth and see how it goes. You can. HP-38. with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the bore, but its better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. Theres no single cartridge that can do everything, especially not with affordability in mind. IMR Smokeless Powder - Rifle. I dont worry about the power factor much because CAS threshold is so low, its not worth the tiny savings in recoil against having to compensate for a two inch high point of impact. 125 gr. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Is the .357 Magnum a rifle cartridge? bullet to a MV of 1352 fps. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: We dont always need full power loads and my more pleasant shooting loads are assembled with H4227. For lead bullets, Unique is great. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. I go through a lot of Blue Dot on 357 mag and you can use it with 38 Spl as well. But have used Power Pistol in .357 Sig. Like mentioned, use a magnum primer with magnum powders and do not reduce H1110/Win 296 below recommended start loads. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Aside from your .357 loads, you can fire several others in it, including the .38 Short and Long Colt and the .38 Special. All with good results. Alliant Powder Reload Recipes. +1 on Hellbents slant on Titegroup in the .357 . . 296 fan. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. I have been reloading the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. I have found Winchester W231 and Hodgdon HS-6 powders excellent for low and medium velocity loads and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for . To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Please read, but do not attempt anything posted here without first seeking out safe and complete instruction. Below, are three loaded rounds. a lightweight .357 or older gun, you may want to start with 13% less than When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. be driven to a MV of 1005 fps by 8.8 grains of HS6 powder, or 1142 fps Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Contest void where prohibited by law. loads today have a limit of 17,000 p.s.i., whereas the .357 Magnum's is 35,000. MLittle. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM March 2022, P.O. 32 Auto. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's I don't have any Titegroup right now or I would try it. Most likely I'll be loading lead bullets. Here are the features to watch out for. My Lyman's claims that for 357 magnum, the 2400 is the best powder delivering highest velocity and accuracy. * Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. Contest void where prohibited by law. In the 1:16 16.25 barrels, we tested loads from subsonic .38 Special to a stout .357 Maximum and everything in between. Now this rifle is ready for use by several generations of our family. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: of True Blue, a WSPM and a 125 gr. Posts: 3,825. Bianchi Speed Strips are a compact loading device for revolvers . It is not the best for all things, but it will work in just about any pistol caliber! The reason I moved to Alliant Power Pro 300MP was I was impressed with what I read about it and have found it to be very clean burning, relatively low muzzle flash, accurate and can get a 150 to 250 more fps while still keeping well within the SAAMI 35,000 psi limit. Can't seem to find any load data for these specific bullets. unique seems to work for all my handgun loads. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. other. Here, I like to shoot a .357 magnum case loaded with a copper-plated 158 grain flat point projectile and a Bullseye charge calibrated to the gun to just make the power factor of 105. can be cranked up a bit in velocity with jacketed bullets for a flatter trajectory in longer-distance shooting and hunting small . For reduced power loads in the .357 I've had great success with accuracy from Trail boss. .357 hunting loads can be tweaked to take deer sized game and smaller. Surprisingly, or not so surprisingly depending upon your point of view, factory chambered leverguns for the .44 Magnum were offered more than 15 years before arriving in .357 Magnum. There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. Switch to jacketed bullets in the .357 Magnum levergun and things get really interesting. But, this isn't the best powder for 900 f/s loads. Deployed military should use stateside address. If I was starting out to load a magnum pistol, like .357, .41, .44, or T/C/Ruger-Only .45 Colt, I'D want Alliant 2400 to learn on. Hornady jacketed over 5gr. All rights reserved. 6.1 gr. I am used to lighter bullets for 38 SC and 9 Major but I see most of the people use heavier bullets in .357? Mike was nice enough to hook me up with some cases and 172gr LSWC bullets. The bullet gets a clean kill without fragmenting. Like Marc said, I'd want data specific to your bullet. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. 2021. 45 Colt guns are popular for authenticitys sake, but .357 guns are more practical from a cost standpoint.
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